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Post by hadus on May 15, 2007 19:46:05 GMT
I need some help from an editing guru...hehe
I have a set of drawings (hydrographic survey) that are printed on a 2'x3' sheet. I had them scanned into both .pdf and .tif formats and want to modify them.
I picked up Adobe PhotoShop Elements 5.0 and it looks like it can do what I want but the file is opening in what appears to be a portrat demension. I tried to adjust it in page setup and also the Image > Resize areas but they indicate that everything is oK.
Is this a problem with the way it was scanned or am I missing something?
Thanks
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Post by Dana Hawkeye on May 15, 2007 19:49:21 GMT
If you look down one of the tool bars on the top line, you should be able to rotate the image.
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Post by Zalis on May 15, 2007 19:50:55 GMT
I don't know much about PS Elements. It's a little more basic than normal Photoshop is. But if it has a menu up top like normal PS, then it should be under Image>rotate canvas.
If this isn't answered by the time I see you in-game, you can send me the TIFF and I'll fix it. (in Photoshop)
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Post by hadus on May 15, 2007 20:04:03 GMT
Thanks guys....but this doesn't seem to be helping....  That function seems to rotate the image within the canvas. There doesn't seem to be a "rotate the canvas" feature. When you review the image properties it says that the image is 36 inches wide x 24 inches high but the appearence on the screen is that it has been scrunched into a portrait...distorting the image. I can't seem to get the canvas to a landscape view? |
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Post by Zalis on May 15, 2007 20:07:51 GMT
36x34? LOL - And I seriously mean that. I had someone send me a logo at work today for an ad, and it was that exact same size. And guess what program they were using? Elements.  I wondered why the file was so huge... If there's any way to marquee (select) just the image on the canvas, then do a "free transform" or "transform" function. If you can find something like that with the image selected, you should be able to manually rotate it. |
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Post by Noir on May 15, 2007 20:08:39 GMT
I'll see if i can find something when I get home after classes today  |
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Post by hadus on May 15, 2007 20:10:11 GMT
will this eventually print out as noted (36" x 24")? or will it print as shown on my display?
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Post by hadus on May 15, 2007 20:24:51 GMT
If this isn't answered by the time I see you in-game, you can send me the TIFF and I'll fix it. (in Photoshop) I might take you up on that Zalis...but there are 5 such files and they all appear the same on my PC.....no "transform" feature was found. I can drag the image around the canvas or rotate the image 90 degrees but that converts it to 24"wide x 36" tall and I don't want it to print like that either....hehe. My daughter has a band concert at school tonight so might not be on til later if at all. |
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Post by Zalis on May 15, 2007 20:29:30 GMT
My daughter has a band concert at school tonight so might not be on til later if at all. I have an event down here in Frederick anyway... which is an hour away from home. So ditto. Probably won't get home until at least 10:30 or 11 PM EST. In which case, I won't be on. |
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Post by Noir on May 15, 2007 20:31:22 GMT
In my admittedly brief research, it seems that rotating the canvas is easy in photoshop (image>rotate canvas) but that option may be missing in Elements. All I found online was:
# Rotating Images
1. Choose Image > Rotate.
2. A submenu will pop up with different selections. The six topmost selections apply to your image.
...which sounds like what you have been doing.
have you tried rotating the image and then resizing the canvas so the image fits correctly?
Zalis's solution may be the simplest of all... I also can take files and switch them for you in Photoshop if all else fails.
Noir
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Post by hadus on May 15, 2007 20:48:45 GMT
In my admittedly brief research, it seems that rotating the canvas is easy in photoshop (image>rotate canvas) but that option may be missing in Elements. All I found online was: # Rotating Images 1. Choose Image > Rotate. 2. A submenu will pop up with different selections. The six topmost selections apply to your image. ...which sounds like what you have been doing. have you tried rotating the image and then resizing the canvas so the image fits correctly? Zalis's solution may be the simplest of all... I also can take files and switch them for you in Photoshop if all else fails. Noir Thanks again... There was no "rotate canvas" per say. There was "rotate Image" which gave me the first 6 options (like you said) of rotating the image and more for rotating layers but it didn't change the actual canvas layout, just the lines in the image. I converted the image to a layer and was able unlock the transform tool but that only allowed me to drag-rotate the image and kept the canvas locked. I could resize the canvas but the demesions listed were already correct... I have these same images as .pdf files also if there is a way to fully edit those but that seemed even harder...lmao |
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Post by hadus on May 15, 2007 21:07:24 GMT
If either of you can turn these file into something editable and printable....hats off to ya....lol
I'm attaching one for you to check out.
They look fine in other programs...but Photoshop is the only one I think I can edit it with?
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Post by Zalis on May 15, 2007 21:12:32 GMT
What exactly do you want to edit? It had a weird pixel ratio setting on that made it open funny. (I think that's an Elements thing... I've seen that on stuff that clients send us sometimes when they're trying to do it themselves) I turned that option off afterwards and it's looking rather normal.
You know you can't edit the words like you could with a text document, right?
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Post by hadus on May 15, 2007 21:37:08 GMT
I was hoping to cut them or place a blank box over the top with either new text or none at all. But I also was hoping to be able to select individual elements of the image (lines and such), which I thought I might be able to do before layering, and modify them.
These images were scanned from full size drawings at a local printing shop.
Perhaps there is a better program?
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Post by Kailianna Firesoul on May 15, 2007 22:06:43 GMT
This is bizzare.... when I open it (in normal photoshop 5.0), it's in landscape format (36 width, 24.133 height), not portrait like you said it was. It seems that Elements is displaying it as a portrait for some odd reason - maybe something in the options is telling it to do so?
If you tell me which lines you'd like modified, I can alter them and send it back, but I'm not sure what will happen when you try to print it with Elements...
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Post by hadus on May 16, 2007 0:11:42 GMT
If you tell me which lines you'd like modified, I can alter them and send it back, but I'm not sure what will happen when you try to print it with Elements... I appreciate the offer  But it's a whole series of edits on 5 different files. Basically these files are surveys done 5 years ago and I want to add the info for the surveys done this year, change the dates and so on.... Maybe I need to get the full version of PhotoShop? |
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Post by Zalis on May 16, 2007 3:17:22 GMT
It's still always going to be pixels, not actual text or movable vector lines. So any changes you make will require either covering up what's there or editing over existing content. ie: you can't just scan it, select text, hit backspace and replace it, etc
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I wondered why the file was so huge...
