IWAY?

[sharplaninac]

i know most ppl hate IWAY, but we can try it in HA if u want.

this is copy paste from another forum, and i checked it. it's good build.

we need: 4 w/r

16 axe mastery
6+ beast mastery
4+ strength

skill bar
1) charm animal
2) tigers fury
3) eviscerate
4) executioners strike or disrupting chop
5) distracting blow or wild blow
6) i will avenge You
7) sprint or edge of extinction or predatory season
8) resurrection signet

1 n/e

16 death magic
10+ soul Reaping
5+ air
4 fire
bloodstained boots

skillbar
1) gale
2) meteor shower
3) tainted flesh
4) windborne speed
5) consume corpse or well of suffering or putrid explosion or necrotic traversal or maelstrom
6) consume corpse or well of suffering or putrid explosion or necrotic traversal or maelstrom
7) well of profane
8) resurrection signet

1 n/mo

14+ blood
7+ soul reaping
11+ healing prayers

skillbar
1) order of pain
2) heal other or dark fury
3) heal party
4) heal area or blood renewal
5) healing breeze
6) offering of blood or healing hands or word of healing or martyr
7) healing seed
8) resurrection signet

1 or 2 r/me

13+ expertise
15+ wilderness survival
3+ inspiration

1) natures renewal
2) spike trap or oath shot
3) dust trap
4) barbed trap
5) flame trap
6) healing spring or troll unguent
7) mantra of resolve or whirling defense
8) resurrecton signet

0 or 1 r/mo

13+ expertise
15+ wilderness survival

skillbar
1) natures renewall
2) martyr
3) dust trap
4) barbed trap
5) purge conditions or flame trap or serpents quickness
6) troll unguent
7) whirling defense
8) resurrection signet

you can use 4 necros and take out some rangers or warriors if you want but you only need 1 tainted flesh necro.

we can get some fame with it, or, most important, we can have fun ;D

p.s. spell check is a good thing

[Lago Mortis]

Can't say I hate IWAY, since my only experience with it has been the hench team in the challenge quest, and I am pretty shure the team build you showed is pretty effective, Shar.

Thing is, I am not very found of all these "standard builds" where you are expected to follow a certain setup. Especially not when they so dominate some areas (like IWAY in HA, pet/barrage in tombs/FoW, duo-55hp/SS in UW and bonded stance tank in SF). For me that takes away the creativity in the game and puts me off.

But I am up for some weird tryouts. Have anyone heard of Mesmer IW spike teams? I have not...but suddenly it seems like a fun idea.

Regards,
Lago Mortis

[Starbuck]

Here is a n00b question; what the heck is IWAY? Is it anything like AMWAY? ;D

[Lago Mortis]

One very popular PUG pvp build which, I think, in original had a 6-7 W/R with pets and I Will Avenge You (IWAY) and one necro standing far behind spamming order of pain and order of the vampire, maybe also 1 monk. Easy to learn, not much can go wrong and very effective against most other builds. Pure brute force.

Lago

[Tanin'iver BlindDragon]

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't IWAY get nerfed by making pets not count as "allies" for the purpose of the core "I Will Avenge You!" skill?

[Lago Mortis]

I think that's correct. It was therefor I wrote "in original". But I guess there still a lot viable variants around, like the the one Shar presented. I should probably not write about this topic since my own experience of IWAY is veeeeeery limited.

Lago

[Twisted Sister Jane]

I think that the Anet IWAY nerf, although feared to include ranger pets, did not in fact. I believe that the death of a ranger pet can still be "avenged" so to speak. What they did nerf was that Necro minions can no longer be "avenged".

My only objection to this idea for Iway is that, like many other specialty teams, it has certain requirements on party professions and builds. I would rather PvP with a balanced team where each player takes with him/her what he/she feels best with, of course with some coordination so that enemy monks get interrupted, our monks get protected, etc. etc.

[sharplaninac]

yes, death of ranger's pet can still be "avenged".. what Anet nerfed was minions.

post I copy/pasted here is from 10.04.2006. (few days ago) and no "nerfing" done by anet since then.

that's why there is no more 7 IWAY war in build. build is changed, but still effective and i read on some forum that it is still overpowered.

but i agree with Jane, better way to have fun is that all play what they like most and think it is the best.

[Volitar]

The nerf was that IWAY does not work on Allies pets. Also, Necro orders cannot be stacked anymore.

I am personally not too fond of IWAY. Before the nerf, IWAY was an absolute pain to bring down. Plus, many of the people who ran the build had an inflated ego and thought they were good at PvP because they could run the build. Some of the rudest people in PvP were the ones in the IWAY teams.

The post-nerf build still looks viable and I'll try it out with you all. I would prefer a balanced build though.

[Radicc Tyranntt]

The orders thing is the only part that really nerfed iway. The good teams that use IWAY were not really hurt by the pets don't count anymore thing. So all they did was make the sucky IWAY pugs suck even more.

Still sucks that IWAY is about the only way your getting in a pug at hero's ascent even though your most likely gonna loose anyway.

[Kailianna Firesoul]

I heard somewhere that in factions you will only be able to have at most three people on your team of any one primary class - was that a rumor or true?

[sharplaninac]

nyren said:

I heard somewhere that in factions you will only be able to have at most three people on your team of any one primary class - was that a rumor or true?

didnt heard that, but that wil be nice

;D

[Radicc Tyranntt]

I didn't hear that either but I could see it happening.

[Gigs]

Bah . . . and we had so much fun going out as 6 Smiting Monks in Dunes. We failed the mission, but it was great fun ;D

[Radicc Tyranntt]

I personally think that an all monk team or an all Me/mo team we rule all in hero's ascent.